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Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby KRL » July 3, 2013, 8:12 am

Over the weekend I read (Marc Berman) that if we let Copeland sign with another team we could do
a sign and trade with that team and bring back a trade exception (worth 4 million). Maybe we want
Copeland to leave which would give us more $$$ to spend and then we could bring back:

- JR (Bird Rights)
- Pablo (What we offered, 900K)
- Shawne Williams (Vet Minimum)
- Brand (Half of MLE)
- Hansbrough (Half of MLE)
- Will Bynum (Trade Exception)

We would then have:

Felton
Shumpert
Melo
Chandler
Bargnani

Bynum / Prigioni
Smith
Stoudemire / Hardaway / Williams
Brand
Hansbrough

Is what Berman reported true and if it is what do you think?
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Re: Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby spree#8 » July 3, 2013, 10:35 am

Usually Berman doesn't know much about the salary cap and its rules, but if he said that we can sign-and-trade Copeland to a team under the cap and acquire a trade exception, he is not wrong. Problem is, we can only sign-and-trade him within what would be possible if we keep him. So we can either sign-and-trade him using MLE money for him or sign-and-trade him for a contract 20 percent above the minimum. So we can't create an "extra" MLE with the sign-and-trade strategy.

So, no, this can't be our strategy - at least not in its entirety. BTW: a trade exception of 4 mill is not possible at all, because as I said, it has to be within what would be possible if we keep him. So the highest trade exception possible to get out of sign-and-trading Cope is the tax-payer MLE (3.18 mill for 2013-14).
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Re: Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby KRL » July 3, 2013, 10:58 am

So if I'm reading your response correctly the Copeland trade could happen but instead of a 4 million trade exception it would be 3.18?
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Re: Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby spree#8 » July 3, 2013, 11:08 am

KRL wrote:So if I'm reading your response correctly the Copeland trade could happen but instead of a 4 million trade exception it would be 3.18?


And we wouldn't have another MLE to split between other players. If you use it for a sign-and-trade with Cope, the MLE we had is converted into a trade exception that you can use in another trade. So why not use the MLE for a different player or sign-and-trade Cope for a player you want to begin with? :blink:

So in your plan you have to scratch the splitting of the MLE between Brand and Hansbrough or the acquisition of Bynum via the trade exception. You can only have one of the two options, sign players for up to the MLE amount or use it in a sign-and-trade, not both.
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Re: Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby KRL » July 3, 2013, 11:12 am

Thanks for the clarification, you have to be a lawyer to understand these CBA rules
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Re: Could This Be Our Strategy???

Postby spree#8 » July 3, 2013, 11:20 am

KRL wrote:Thanks for the clarification, you have to be a lawyer to understand these CBA rules


Nah, IMO the FAQ from Larry Coon - http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm - makes it possible without law studies. It just takes interest and a little time. And you always have to ask yourself whether some move wouldn't be a circumvention of other rules. So if we have only one tax-payer MLE to offer outside free agents and have to use the same exception to resign Cope above the minimum, then there is probably no way to double what we can offer outside free agents with a trade of Cope. So if Berman says there is, question him.
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