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Don Che wrote:I've seen Okafor in the NBA his rookie year and what i saw was a kid playing on the worse team ever and scoring efficiently and off the eye test hes bigger/stronger/more mobile than Willy and based off that i think he can fix his defensive woes with the right coach and watching us defend under Jeff ...i think we can do it.
Willy is better in a team concept but I can't really say Okafor has played in a team concept yet in the nba. I see talent you can't teach with a player that doesnt seem lazy like a Eddy Curry...he wants to be good and he wants to win...I'd give him a shot.
I think Okafor would get minutes on this team.
Don Che wrote:i think if Embiid didnt exist and Okafor was in his place....he'd be dropping 20/7-8 on an efficient clip. maybe even higher...he dropped 20 with us on his team.
Don Che wrote:ok now i see how far your stretching this, at first i understood your view but if your implying that Embiid had nothing to do with Okafors placement on the team...I just flat out disagree whole heartedly on that.
I wouldnt put Okafor with Anthony Bennett ...Okafor can play hes just not a priority since Embiid is there. But I'll wait because Philly hasnt been a place to nurture talent until now.
I've seen guys with far less talent than Okafor do well in this league.
Don Che wrote:its simple..you think Embiid has nothing to do with Okafors placement on the team...and I dont buy that.
I think he can still be a quality big for an nba team needing low post scoring....like the nets or celtics or cavs
if he goes there i hope your right and i pray he sucks also but idt so
Don Che wrote:I've seen Okafor in the NBA his rookie year and what i saw was a kid playing on the worse team ever and scoring efficiently and off the eye test hes bigger/stronger/more mobile than Willy and based off that i think he can fix his defensive woes with the right coach and watching us defend under Jeff ...i think we can do it.
Willy is better in a team concept but I can't really say Okafor has played in a team concept yet in the nba. I see talent you can't teach with a player that doesnt seem lazy like a Eddy Curry...he wants to be good and he wants to win...I'd give him a shot.
I think Okafor would get minutes on this team.
Don Che wrote:what did you mean when you said "he didnt held him back"?
i read it as Embiid didnt hold Okafor back which I dont agree.
spree#8 wrote:He hasn't. Watch games and look at the numbers. The only thing Okafor got on Willy is more playing time, because he was the third pick, while Willy was a second-round pick, because he was still under contract in Europe. People thought Okafor would be WAY better, but he hasn't proven it yet.
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Should the Cleveland Cavaliers even consider trading for Jahlil Okafor?
Conclusion
Jahlil Okafor would be a risky trade to make. Much of his production relies on how hard he is willing to try.
However, it is possible that Okafor would show much more effort playing for a championship contending team. Perhaps Okafor showed such poor effort simply because the team he was playing on at the time was one of the worst in the league. Either way, it is still a risk to attempt this trade.
Furthermore, there are better options out there right now at the center position. Both Marc Gasol and DeAndre Jordan are becoming available on the market and would be much more helpful to Cleveland.
In the end, trading for Okafor may not be a worthwhile investment for the Cavs. At this point, the only trade Cleveland should make if one that improves their odds against Golden State, and as displayed, acquiring Okafor would not do that.
spree#8 wrote:I was saying that you have to watch whole games to see why people are not high on him anymore when it comes to trade value. Everyone looks good in highlight videos. For Okafor his post prowess hasn't been enough to vow people with the eye test and in terms of stats because of the rest of his game. Not sure why that is so hard to understand. No one says that he can't still be a good project in a different situation. No one is saying that he wasn't regarded way higher than Willy.
Point is: when you look at what both have brought to the table and at their contract situation we have right now the more valuable piece. More efficient and more rounded production on less money for more guaranteed years. Easy call for the GMs around the league. Especially when they can just sit out Okafor becoming a free agent at the end of the season or being bought out before then.
So there is simply no need for us to offer Willy for Okafor. If you were in charge and wanted Okafor over Willy so bad, please think this through. In that case, you trade Willy for a comparable prospect at another position (preferably wing) who is in the same price and contract length range, while snatching Okafor up on his currently low price.
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